I feel like crap inside.

Hey yall...

I just need to share what happened to me tonight...and see what yall think.

As most of yall know...my relationship is kinda rocky with my family...especially my dad. He's really conservative and really religious...and can't get over the fact that I'm living in sin with a man who's older than he is.

My sister is in love with a guy in Iowa...they're engaged actually. My sister hates living at home (she's 19) and recently has decided that she wants to tranfer to Iowa State University...to be closer to him...basically so they can see if things will work. I totally support her and have been helping her navigate financial and application hell.

Tonight my sister calls me (during Survivor no less) and is talking to me...and she tells me that she told our mom that she filled out the Iowa State application and sent it off. My mom wasn't too happy but just told my sis that she wasn't going to help pay for it (which we knew anyways).

Then my sister tells me..."No offense Nadine...but I don't want my relationship with mom and dad to end up like yours....I don't want to hurt anyone."

I'm not upset by this...I know where my sister's head was at when she said this...and I know what she means...I wouldn't want it either. I'm just more independent than she is...so I can handle it.

What killed me was that she was on the phone with me while breaking the news to my dad. Which started my dad in on my relationship...and how Manda must have been talking to me...and how she shouldn't be taking advice from someone living with a 40 year old man...yada yada....nothing very good.

Finally I got upset enough that I just hung up. I probably should have hung up long before I did...but I felt like I should hang on incase my sister needed me.

My sister hasn't called me back...so I have no idea what happened.

Alec of course is such a great guy...he could tell I was upset and just held me and told me he loved me...which was what I needed at the moment.

Blah...I don't know...should I be upset? Do I just brush it off? I don't know...i don't even know if yall will read this whole thing cuz it's hella long.

Nadine.

Oh wow. (((((HUGS)))))

And whad'ya mean "should" you be upset. When you feel upset, you feel upset. No should's about it! If I were you, I'd be upset too.

I wish I had advice for you but unfortunately I don't. I haven't spoken to my own dad in almost 3 years. :eek:

But feel free to rant as much as you want cuz I'm a great listener (or actually, reader)! :)

Awww...thanks Emzak....i always love and need hugs.
(Alec can only give me so many!)

Tonight I had a strange thought...(strange for me because I've always always been a daddy's girl)

I've heard all the threats about them disowning me...because of Alec...they even told me I had to choose them or Alec.

But what if I disowned them? Maybe not outright disowning them...but just stopped calling?

Or if I stopped talking to my dad when my mom or sister called.

Is that childish?

I think the reason I'm not sure if I should be upset (yes...I realize that I yams what I yams)...is because I know my dad's position on this...he doesn't really mean to be hurtful..it's just how he feels about the situation.

Sometimes I feel like we take two steps forward just to take three steps back. And the forward ones are way harder to achieve than the backwards ones...know what I mean?

Nadine.

first of all, emzak you are a great reader and listener, thank you for all your help.

Now to the topic. My grandmother (who is like my mother because shes my legal guardian and sort of raised me) was very against my relationship. She sometimes makes comments like you can do better or you dont need that or maybe you should find someone your own age. She doesnt support it but I guess she has to respect it. My dad hasnt said anything and my grandfather and I havent spoke in a very long time because of other issues.

Regardless, if my family doesnt support my relationship I dont care, it isnt there place to tell me who I should or should not fall in love with.

I'm not close with any of my family so anything I say probably wont relate to what you are trying to get advice for. I'm opening to listening though and helping all I can. Just be strong and figure out what is most important to you, your parents support or the person you may spend the rest of your life with.

Definately agree with you...Emzak is a great listener/reader!!! So thank both of yall for your quick responses/help! *hugs*

I definately know what you mean...and i definately haven't let my parents dictate who I've fallen in love with.

It's very easy for me to distance myself most of the time...because they're still in Texas...and I moved to North Carolina. I've been here now for 6 months...and I guess I just got deluded that things were getting better...when really my dad still has this anger towards my decisions in life.

I told Alec tonight when he was holding me...I said..."you know what really matters? You and me. I love you so much...and I know you love me....thats what matters to me."

The longer I am here in North Carolina...the more i realize that this is my home. I just wish my parents were a little more supportive.

Nadine.

Well...I talked to my sister just now...

She appologized (not that she had anything to be sorry for)...and we talked.

She thinks I'd be right in not talking to my dad for a while....she agrees that sometimes you can only do so much before you've got to just step back from the situation.

She also mentioned that she thinks Alec should ask my dad for my hand in marriage...(when we get to that point) I told her I'm still on the fence on that issue.

So...I'm feeling a little better...still a little upset. But I'm mostly tired so I'm going to bed. Goodnight yall.

Nadine.

Hey Nadine,

I feel for you, I really do. I think we talked about this briefly the other night. I fear the day that the cat's let outta the bag so to speak. My mom knows my boyfriend is 'considerably' older than me, but I haven't gotten into specifics....and I don't know if she's told my dad or not. I assume she probably has, but god knows what. I think anyone who is close to their family is going to care what they think, at least to some degree. It's hard because you want your family to not just 'accept' your relationship, but to support it and nurture it.

I've thought a lot about how I will feel if my family doesn't accept my boyfriend when the time comes to introduce him and move forward with that whole thing. I've pretty much decided that while I truly WANT them to be happy for me....for us, more than that, I want US to be happy.....and we are. As much as it even kills me to think that way, it's how it has to be. I stopped living my life for my parents/family/friends a loooong time ago.

From what I have read, you and Alec are very happy, he enriches your life, and you his....that is a very POSITIVE thing....that is what we ALL want afterall right? I wouldn't say you have to 'disown' them in the sense that you cut off contact, but it may not be such a bad idea to let them come to you, ya know? I guess I kinda feel like if they are the ones who are putting the barriers up here, then maybe they should be the ones who have to 'fight' to get through them. I hate that you are the one who is most upset in all of this. It also just has never made sense to me how someone (a parent or otherwise) can be so upset when someone they care about is truly happy. As you said, I am sure he just wants what is best for you, but I think you need to put this in his lap to come to terms with. You can't put it all on yourself to 'work out.' That's just my opinion -- it isn't fair to you and Alec.

If I may ask, what is he specifically so concerned about with the age? Or has he even said?

I hope you feel better (((hugs)))

Parents are parents, and I know its a different kind of love, but all love is based on some type of respect. That sounds pretty disrespectful what your dad was doing while you were talking to your sister. You shouldn't have to take that from anybody especially from someone you love. You should just tell him once that you're not going to deal with him unless he makes an honest effort because its not fair to you to stress you like that. Parents just want whats best for their kids but how do underhanded insults and stress help achieve that?

Like...this will sound dumb I know. But I was home sick a couple weeks ago and caught the Dr. Phil show on TV. This girl wanted her parents to allow her to spend time with her boyfriend. She was thinking about running away with him. Ok, Phil's point was valid, she was 17 and therefore her parents had final say in their state legally. But the dad admitted to only having him over once and not liking him, and the whole time the boyfriend was on the phone talking the dad is sitting there rolling his eyes, making "Duh" faces, all kinds of stuff. I was like...geesh. No wonder she wants to run away you MORON! She's probably in the the throes of her first love and her idiot dad can't think of any better compromise than telling her not to see him and making fun of him behind his back. Those are the types of parents that end up all alone after retirement wondering why their kids never come visit.

I can't believe Dr. Phil took this guys side. Dr. Phil is an idiot.

Nadine,i hope you feel better today it is only 7 am there so maybe you are still sleeping heh

ok first of all, family, you could not choose them,i always found stupid you have to get along good with them...to a certain point that is. If your relationship was good before you and Alec got together they should understand someday and accept it is your life,and whatever makes you happy they should take.

I am glad you talked to your sister,dont let what others may feel effect your relationship.If you tried talking to your dad and he doesnt understand or accept your relationship maybe you should take some distance,not stop talking to him but let things calm down a bit, he eventually will see you are mature enough to make your decisions and take its consequences,they would finally be supportive or at least shrug and say "oh well it is your choice" :p

however, and even though it hurts that those you love dont see with good eyes the person that makes you happy, you dont "need" them to go on with your life. You will have a life project with Alec not with your father,if he decides not no be part of it too it is not your fault,not his either but he will indeed miss a lot of good things.

i always thought what parents wanted was their children being happy, but what i found out is,many parents do want their children to be happy,but doing what they would want us to do. (i dont know if that makes sense in english,it does to me in spanish heh)

lots of hugs for you :)

María

Dr. Phil CAN be a total idiot SN--I saw that show and thought the same thing!

Jesique..I think you should write your parents a letter and tell them how you feel. Something in writing telling them that their treatment is causing you great pain in your life might help your situation. I know a letter may sound a little silly, but sometimes it shows great effort and consideration. It's something that they can hold onto, put into their desk drawer, pull out, reflect upon..I don't know but that has always worked for me.

Have they met Alec? Have they been given some reason (besides how old he is) to believe this relationship is not what's best for you?

I know you're in a dilemma. There's just no easy solution here. That's one of the tricky things about these kinds of relationships. You may be open-minded about them--but other people are not, and unfortunately those people may consist of our close family and friends. If your parents continue to berate your relationship, I agree with the other posters that it may be in your best interest to cut off contact for awhile, otherwise you're just going on an emotional rollercoaster every time you hang up the phone with them. Unfortunately, that seems to be a reality for your situation.

I really wish for you that your parents (Dad, especially) will turn around on this issue and see that your choices are bringing you much happiness!!

have not read the other responses.


but yes it's perfectly ok for YOU to disown them if their behavior is toxic to you.

i have a friend at work she's 28 she has opted to not follow the religion she was raised in. her parents are making her crazy and daily we work on her saying NO to them.

you are over 18
you are your own person.

what your parents believe does not have to be what you believe.


so yes if it's painful for you... then don't cause yourself pain

you wouldn't hold your hand over a hot stove just because someone told you it's the right thing to do would you?

Nadine, this does really suck. I really like what hellodolly said about the letter. And I think that they are trying, your mom at least, from what you posted around xmas time. So, maybe this is just a bit of a regression, and then things will move forward again. I get the feeling that over time, they'll get over it. It is harder though, since you and Alec are so far away, and maybe in their mind, he "took" their little girl away. I know if it was my parents, they'd be having absolute fits over that.

I hope you feel better today Nadine. It's tough enough being away from family, without this drama.

Thanks guys...I do feel much better today. Like Alec always tells me...things look better in the morning. *grin*

I also like the idea of the letter...I did that back in the beginning of all of this...because it was easier to get my thoughts out...but I never sent it to them. Maybe I should do that again.

My mom and sister have met Alec...and I think thats why it's easier for them to accept...they've seen him and have seen that he's a good guy.

My dad refused to meet him...and is the one always making comments...and is the one I was upset with last night. He's just so stubborn.

Basically the reason he doesn't like Alec is because in his mind...Alec has "corrupted" his babygirl...taken her out of state...and plus the fact that he's older than him...must mean he's a pervert who only wants one thing.

I think what I'm going to do is just not worry about it for now...the distance kind of helps things...and the fact that I'm living my own life helps too. As for my dad I just think I'm not going to talk to him for a while. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. I love him to death but he needs to realize that I need to live my own life.

Thank yall so much....your support means so much to me...yall rock!!!

Nadine.

PS. I hate Dr. Phil too...i think he's a little TOO touchy feely and his voice drives me nuts.

Sorry I missed this earlier, Nadine. I've been super busy today. :eek:

This is what I'd do in your shoes. Back off from Dad. Give him a long while to stew and miss the hell out of you. When he can't stand it any longer and calls YOU, then you tell him point blank that he has to accept your relationship or accept that you no longer desire to be in touch with HIM.

I think once he realizes you DO weild the power to cut him off, he will loosen up. ESPECIALLY if you're a Daddy's girl. This is about control and his feeling helpless to protect you. It's totally normal, to be honest, and I doubt he would be accepting ANYONE....

((((HUGS)))) to you, hon.
~phos

I'm glad you're feeling better, Nadine. I am with you on this issue -- my parents dissaprove of my relationship too. My mom had ignored me for five months because of it! But after we had broken up in October and I moved back in with my parents, they were immediately fine with me again. It was like nothing had ever happened. But now that I'm seeing my OM again, but still living in their house, they seem okay. For now at least. They know I am seeing him as well, for which I am glad, because I hate lying to them. So, I'm hoping, this time around, they will realize that I AM their daughter, no matter who I date, and that kind of relationship should be strong enough to overcome something like AGE. Pfff, please.

It probably really does bother your dad that Alec is older than he is though...that's like one of his buddies being with his daughter. He probably needs time to get over that one...I'm lucky enough that my parents are old enough to be my boyfriend's parents. (Our moms are actually the same age...my mom is 2 weeks older than his! :rolleyes: )

I think if I were a mom, and my daughter was dating an older guy (I'd understand being in a yw/om relationship, but thats besides the point) and if she were in a good, healthy position, I would be happy if she were happy. And of couse parents want what is best for us, but...what one person thinks is best, probably isn't the same for another.

Lets just hope, in time, our parents will learn to look at it for what it is.
Good Luck Nadine! I'm there with ya, girl.
lj

Thanks again yall.

Phos...you're absolutely right. It's a control issue...and my dad probably does feel really helpless right now. And it doesn't help matters that they're losing control of my little sister either.

The problem is that I talk mostly on the phone to my mom...and she'll ask me..."wanna talk to dad real quick?" So now I've got to explain to her why I really honestly don't want to. Plus my dad has my laptop and I really need it fixed!!! lol.

elle.jay...thanks! It's definately good to know that there are others going through the same kind of problems with their parents...makes me feel like I'm not alone.

I know exactly what you mean about your parents acting like nothing had ever happened when you moved back in with them....my parents totally just kinda pretended the issue didn't exist when I went home for a week around Xmas.

I definately hope our parents come around...especially mine...cuz I love them to death and I know they love me...and I don't wanna have to cut them out of my life...but I just can't handle (and shouldn't have to) the negativity.

Nadine.

I definately hope our parents come around...especially mine...cuz I love them to death and I know they love me...and I don't wanna have to cut them out of my life...but I just can't handle (and shouldn't have to) the negativity.

Nadine.

Exactly. I don't want to have to cut my family out either. I mean, what if something was to happen to them, or even you! Do you have any idea what you would have to go through the rest of your life if you knew the last thing you had said to that person was @#!@#$*&%$ you! and they died or something? I mean, its just not worth it! They are your family, and they are irreplaceable!!

How does Alec's family feel about your relationship? (you may have said something about this before, but..I don't remember if you had.)

lj

Exactly. I don't want to have to cut my family out either. I mean, what if something was to happen to them, or even you! Do you have any idea what you would have to go through the rest of your life if you knew the last thing you had said to that person was @#!@#$*&%$ you! and they died or something? I mean, its just not worth it! They are your family, and they are irreplaceable!!

How does Alec's family feel about your relationship? (you may have said something about this before, but..I don't remember if you had.)

lj

EXACTLY!!!

Alec doesn't really talk to his family that much...i'm not sure if thats just the way his family works...or if it's cuz he's older. I've talked to his dad on the phone and he's just a hoot! His parents are in the middle of a divorce...so things are kinda weird...so I'm not sure if they even know/care about me. *grin* They know Alec is happy...so I guess thats all that matters to them.

Nadine.

hey nadine - I can't believe I'm just now seeing this thread, cuz it's right up my alley. first, (((((hugs))))) http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/travesmilies/smilie_allesgut.gif I skimmed through the other posts, and everyone has given you some really great advise.

I think most of the people here have heard my story 50 million times by now, but I just wanted to let you know that I am have been where you are.

My father didn't talk to me for over 4 years because of my relationship. And he prolly wouldn't be talking to me still if circumstances hadn't required him to.

At first, (when the threat to my physical safety was over http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-034.gif ) I was like you, I tried to communicate with him, but was constantly shot down. It was a little different because he didn't make comments, he just ignored me - flat out acted like I wasn't there.

Eventually I got to the point where I had to accept it, stop trying, and basically "disown him" too. And let me tell you - I felt much better. I could get on with my life.

The problem is that I talk mostly on the phone to my mom...and she'll ask me..."wanna talk to dad real quick?" So now I've got to explain to her why I really honestly don't want to.

I dealt with this too, and this WAS hard. My mom was in denial about my relationship with G and the state of my relationship with my father. She would constantly try to make me feel like I was at fault - that I was in the wrong because I wasn't making an effort with my father. I would often have to painfully remind her of why I stopped making an effort with him.

I would be on the phone with her and she would say "do you want to say hi to your dad?" I would respond, "does he want to say hi to me?" then she would literally tell me that of course he doesn't but "he is your father, so you should make the effort" :confused: Once, she just couldn't figure out why I didn't want to go to her house for dinner for my father's birthday and I finally snapped. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sauer/angry-smiley-001.gif.

The way I saw it was why on earth would I want to consciously subject myself to that kind of abusive treatment? Why would I want to put myself in a situation where I was being mistreated and that caused me so much pain?

So, once I realized this and took some time to get used to it, eventually I got to the point where I felt very detached from him and finally I began to see him as a person and not my father. And once I got to that point, I realized that I didn't have to cut him off completely, and then I was able to be around him and the rest of my family without being so affected by his sad behavior. He became a person that just happened to be there just like everyone else - sure he and I share the same genetics and I can love him and care for him, but I don't have to get along with him, I don't even have to talk with him, and I most definitly don't need his approval.

Whew! Talk about a long post!!! So, if you got through all of that - the last part is always hard for me to articulate, so I hope it made some sense. :)

I've heard all the threats about them disowning me...because of Alec...they even told me I had to choose them or Alec.

But what if I disowned them? Maybe not outright disowning them...but just stopped calling?

Or if I stopped talking to my dad when my mom or sister called.

Is that childish?

Hell, no. That's what I've been doing for the past few years. Works great for me! :D

{{{{{Nadine}}}}}}}}}

Thanks yall...

Moon...thanks for sharing your story with me...i apparently missed all 50 million tellings of it. *grin*

Flanker...thanks for the hug man! :D

Emzak...you always make me smile.

(((((HUGS FOR EVERYONE)))))

I'm feeling much better these days about this situation...after talking to all of yall....and talking to my sister...and with Alec.

I'm living my life...and thats what counts to me. *grin*

Nadine.

You are welcome Nadine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The way I saw it was why on earth would I want to consciously subject myself to that kind of abusive treatment? Why would I want to put myself in a situation where I was being mistreated and that caused me so much pain?

So, once I realized this and took some time to get used to it, eventually I got to the point where I felt very detached from him and finally I began to see him as a person and not my father. And once I got to that point, I realized that I didn't have to cut him off completely, and then I was able to be around him and the rest of my family without being so affected by his sad behavior. He became a person that just happened to be there just like everyone else - sure he and I share the same genetics and I can love him and care for him, but I don't have to get along with him, I don't even have to talk with him, and I most definitly don't need his approval.



Ya know, this is really great advice. I just wish I could follow it. Lately, I've been leaving my parents house for long periods of time, and my parents know I'm with my OM. But when I get home, my mom still asks me who I've been with and what I've been doing and then she gets pissed because I'm not going to lie to her--I tell her I am with my OM.

And today, I used my phone to call them and I hadn't realized that when my boyfriend and I got cell phones together, and they were under his name, that when I called them, it would show up as his name on the caller ID. Well, apparently THIS, reeeallly pissed my mom off. So she's all mad at me that just his NAME came up on the caller ID.

I just cannot believe how childish she is being!!! My boyfriend is my best friend and he means everything to me. Why can't my mom just see how happy he makes me and that I am in a good place in my life, even if it is with him?! I mean, she doesn't have to like him and she doesn't have to have him over for dinner or whatever, but she should at least respect the fact that I am her DAUGHTER, flesh and blood, and that WHO i am DATING shouldn't affect the way she feels about ME!! GEEESH!!

Sorry, I just really needed to vent. :mad:

elle.jay....*HUGS*

I know what ya mean hun.

My cell phone is in a family plan with my parents...which means they get the bill....which meant that when they found out about Alec...they had his phone number.

The worst night I ever had was when they called me...screaming...then hung up with me. I called Alec...and while I was on the phone with him...his other line rang...it was my dad. I hung up with Alec...my sister called me...crying cuz my dad was screaming at Alec. Then my mom called me again and screamed at me some more.

Did any of that make sense? It was a horrible night. My dad was screaming at Alec to leave his daughter alone...and all Alec could do was try and be as polite as possible.

Good for you though for sticking your ground and not lying to your parents about where you were...that should show them that you're taking responsibility for your actions.

Anywho...I wish I had some good advice for ya. *grin* (((((((elle.jay)))))))

Nadine.

Thanks Nadine.

Well I can't say I've ever had either of my parents call my boyfriend, thank GOD! But they did say that they wanted to beat him up with a baseball bat. And my mom also said she "hates him more than anything." :( It just makes me so sad because I KNOW what an awesome person he is. And they'll just never get to know him like I know him...and I hate that. My parents hate a person they don't even know!! *sigh* It just seems like ...it takes so much energy to hate. It would be so much easier if she would just look at it for what it is!! Two people that love each other! There's nothing wrong or bad about it!!!
I don't want to hurt my parents anymore--but I'm getting to the point where I just...I don't want to say "don't care anymore" ...but I feel like I'm getting there.

The good news is we found an apartment I am absolutely in love with...so we'll probably be moving into it in March! :D

Thanks for your support Nadine...sorry I hijacked your thread!

Thanks Nadine.

Well I can't say I've ever had either of my parents call my boyfriend, thank GOD! But they did say that they wanted to beat him up with a baseball bat. And my mom also said she "hates him more than anything." :( It just makes me so sad because I KNOW what an awesome person he is. And they'll just never get to know him like I know him...and I hate that. My parents hate a person they don't even know!! *sigh* It just seems like ...it takes so much energy to hate. It would be so much easier if she would just look at it for what it is!! Two people that love each other! There's nothing wrong or bad about it!!!
I don't want to hurt my parents anymore--but I'm getting to the point where I just...I don't want to say "don't care anymore" ...but I feel like I'm getting there.

The good news is we found an apartment I am absolutely in love with...so we'll probably be moving into it in March! :D

Thanks for your support Nadine...sorry I hijacked your thread!

Girl...don't even worry about hijacking the thread...i got some great advice that really helped me over my anger...I'm feeling much better about the whole situation for now. *grin*

I know exactly what you mean...my dad told me it's a good thing Alec didn't live in Texas...cuz he would have been dead and my dad would be in jail. Yikes! Is that anything to tell your daughter? How can they hate someone so much...and yet get mad at me for living in sin?

Grrr.

Anyways...I'm sorry your parents feel that way...It definately sucks.

I'm glad to hear that yall are gonna get a cool apt and move in together...thats exciting!!! :D Plus it'll be sooo much easier once you're not under your parents roof. *hugs*

Nadine.

This all totally amazes me. My parents have never had a problem with me dating older men. Never! When I was in my early twenties I always dated men at least ten years older than me.

Now that I'm dating a YM my mother says things like, "But in 15 years you'll be going through menopause and rasing two teenage daughters. He'll still be young and not sympathetic. An older man would appreciate you more."

Now my dad, love his heart, says, "But Rhonda, she could marry an older man, he could get sick and then she is going through menopause, raising two teenage daughters and taking care of her aging husband." Gotta love my dad.

That is the most my mother has ever said about the situation. They seem very happy for me and my dad hasn't even met Adam yet, but he's impressed because Adam stood by me through my crisis.

I just think it's interesting because my mother would rather I date an older man while you're parents don't want you to date an older man. *shakes head* To be perfectly honest, I don't know if our parents will ever be happy with our choices because frankly they'll never think anyone is good enough for their little girls.

Nadine, if I were you I'd also discontinue contact with your dad for a while. Right now he thinks you'll always be there. Btw, my dad is a minister so I totally get the living in sin thing. Thankfully though, my dad doesn't care if my man is old, young, white or black.....he just wants him to be a Christian and be good to me and my girls.

I'm sorry you girls are going through this and while my situation was different a bit off topic it struck me as ironic. It doesn't seem like they are ever satisfied.

Shan

Thanks Sdoah...

Even though your situation is different...I love hearing about how other parents handle their childrens relationships. *grin*

I actually haven't spoken to my dad in about two weeks...but I'm not sure that he's noticed. They haven't tried to contact me...and I haven't contacted them. I'm sure they're just busy and think that I'm busy.

Either that or they blame me for my sister spreading her wings.

I've talked to my sister and she hasn't told me anything...so I have no clue. I'm really not worried about it....I'm too busy living my life the way I want! :D

They say the best revenge is living well. *smile*

Nadine.

They say the best revenge is living well. *smile*


Amen to that. ;)

Thanks Sdoah...

Even though your situation is different...I love hearing about how other parents handle their childrens relationships. *grin*

I actually haven't spoken to my dad in about two weeks...but I'm not sure that he's noticed. They haven't tried to contact me...and I haven't contacted them. I'm sure they're just busy and think that I'm busy.

Either that or they blame me for my sister spreading her wings.

I've talked to my sister and she hasn't told me anything...so I have no clue. I'm really not worried about it....I'm too busy living my life the way I want! :D

They say the best revenge is living well. *smile*

Nadine.

I'm glad you are feeling better about this situation, Nadine. I still haven't really told my parents that I'm moving out again...they're probably going to get pissed. We move into the apartment March 18th, so..I'll have to tell them pretty soon, anyways.

Sdoah! I'm jealous!! I wish my mom would just let it go...GEEEEZ it just hurts my brain to think about this stupid situation. I am SO over it, why can't everyone else be over it?!

lj

Congrats on moving out! That's always fun...moving into a new apt. *grin* You're moving in with your guy...right?

Are you gonna wait to tell them till like the day before? *grin*

How far away from them will you be?

Nadine.

Congrats on moving out! That's always fun...moving into a new apt. *grin* You're moving in with your guy...right?

Are you gonna wait to tell them till like the day before? *grin*

How far away from them will you be?

Nadine.
Yeah, we're moving back in together...I am going to tell them soon...maybe a week or so before I move out.

I will only be about 30 miles away...

lj

Ok...just an update...

I heard from my mom today...she sent me an email...like...hey whats up...haven't heard from you in a while...

I'm like no shit sherlock...but you've got a phone too...you could call everyonce in a while. Blah.

Elle.jay...thats good...so you'll still be close enough so you're parents hopefully will be pretty cool about it. I'll be thinking about you when you tell them. *grin*

Nadine.